Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/01/2013 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 1, 2013                                                                                           
                         9:07 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:07:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  called the  Senate Finance Committee  meeting                                                                   
to order at 9:07 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Anna Fairclough, Vice-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Mike Dunleavy                                                                                                           
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Sarah   Fisher-Goad,   Executive  Director,   Alaska   Energy                                                                   
Authority,  Department of  Commerce,  Community and  Economic                                                                   
Development;  Sean  Skaling,   Deputy  Director,  Alternative                                                                   
Energy  and  Energy  Efficiency,   Alaska  Energy  Authority,                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY                                                                                           
     Sara Fisher-Goad, Executive Director, Alaska Energy                                                                        
     Authority                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:08:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH   FISHER-GOAD,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA   ENERGY                                                                   
AUTHORITY  (AEA),  DEPARTMENT   OF  COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND                                                                   
ECONOMIC   DEVELOPMENT  (DCCED),   provided  a  Power   Point                                                                   
presentation  titled "Alaska  Energy  Authority Overview  and                                                                   
Renewable  Energy  Fund Update"  (copy  on file).  She  noted                                                                   
that AEA  had given a similar  overview to the  Senate Energy                                                                   
Committee.  She pointed out  a chart  (copy on file)  showing                                                                   
various  state energy programs  that were  managed by  Alaska                                                                   
Housing  Finance Corporation  (AHFC), AEA,  DCCED, and  a new                                                                   
program under  the Alaska  Industrial Development  and Export                                                                   
Authority (AIDEA).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  discussed AEA's  mission to reduce  the cost                                                                   
of energy through various strategies on slide 2:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · Energy Planning and Policy                                                                                                 
   · Technical and Community Assistance                                                                                         
   · Investing in Alaska's Energy Infrastructure                                                                                
   · Diversifying Alaska's Energy Portfolio                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Fisher-Goad    expounded   that   AEA    built   energy                                                                   
infrastructure   in  rural   communities   and  granted   the                                                                   
finished  product to  the community  or its  utility. One  of                                                                   
the  main strategies  for  reducing the  cost  of energy  was                                                                   
through  diversification   in   the  energy  portfolio;   the                                                                   
Renewable   Energy  Fund   was  one   of  the  primary   ways                                                                   
diversification was achieved.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad   moved  to  slide  3   titled  "Electricity                                                                   
Generation by  Region." The slide  provided a  perspective of                                                                   
annual   generation  throughout   the   state;  most   energy                                                                   
generation occurred  in the Railbelt region,  which accounted                                                                   
for approximately  80 percent of the state's  population. She                                                                   
discussed  electricity  prices  by community;  the  Anchorage                                                                   
and  Railbelt  areas had  some  of  the lower  energy  costs,                                                                   
while the  rest of Alaska  (mostly rural and  less populated)                                                                   
had significantly  higher rates.  She stated that  regions of                                                                   
the  state  with  access to  natural  gas  had  substantially                                                                   
lower heating costs than other areas.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:12:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  looked at  slide  5 titled  "Energy  Policy                                                                   
Development and Coordination":                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · Deputy    Director   for    Statewide   Energy    Policy                                                                   
     Development                                                                                                                
   · Serve as lead on Alaska's energy policy development                                                                        
   · Coordination of energy plans on statewide level                                                                            
   · Coordinate multi-agency efforts                                                                                            
   · Individual project analysis and vetting                                                                                    
   · Transmission planning                                                                                                      
   · Working with AIDEA on LNG trucking                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  elaborated that  Gene Therriault  had joined                                                                   
the  AEA   management  team  as   the  deputy   director  for                                                                   
Statewide  Energy  Policy  Development  and was  leading  the                                                                   
effort  towards   various  policy  development   issues.  The                                                                   
organization was  coordinating a  variety of energy  plans in                                                                   
Alaska;  it  had   led  the  effort  for  the   Railbelt  and                                                                   
Southeast  Integrated  Resources Plans  and  was involved  in                                                                   
the  development   of  various   regional  plans   that  were                                                                   
primarily   being  led  by   regional  economic   development                                                                   
organizations. She  furthered that AEA had been  working with                                                                   
a variety  of regions to  build on an  energy pathway  it had                                                                   
developed  a couple  of years  earlier with  a more  regional                                                                   
look at energy planning.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad   pointed  to   additional  information   on                                                                   
regional  energy  planning  on  slide  6  titled  "Supporting                                                                   
Regional  Solutions."  She shared  that  AEA was  working  on                                                                   
regional projects  and transmission  efforts that  could help                                                                   
reduce the cost  of energy. The effort  included transmitting                                                                   
power   from    one   community   powerhouse    to   outlying                                                                   
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:14:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  looked at infrastructure and  large projects                                                                   
on  slide  7 including  Bradley  Lake  hydroelectric,  Alaska                                                                   
Intertie,  and  Susitna-Watana  hydroelectric.  She  detailed                                                                   
that  the  Susitna-Watana  hydroelectric   project  had  been                                                                   
authorized two years  earlier under SB 42,  which had allowed                                                                   
AEA  to move  forward on  owning and  operating the  project.                                                                   
She relayed  that AEA  had built the  Four Dam Pool  projects                                                                   
that  were  now owned  by  local  utilities: Terror  Lake  is                                                                   
owned by  the Kodiak Electric  Association; Solomon  Gulch is                                                                   
owned  by  Copper   Valley  Electric  Association;   and  the                                                                   
Southeast Alaska  Power Agency owns  Swan Lake and  Tyee that                                                                   
serve Ketchikan,  Wrangell, and  Petersburg. She  shared that                                                                   
the  Larson Bay  hydroelectric  project that  had been  built                                                                   
and owned by AEA was now in local control.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad   communicated   that  AEA's  rural   energy                                                                   
emphasis had been  on bulk fuel storage facilities  and rural                                                                   
power system  upgrades (slide  8 titled "Rural  Energy"). She                                                                   
relayed that  Denali Commission funds had  primarily financed                                                                   
projects  that had  been  built  in the  past  12 years;  the                                                                   
program  had   been  federally  driven,  but   state  capital                                                                   
project  funds had  been allocated  to  continue the  program                                                                   
for the  construction of  power systems  and tank  farms. She                                                                   
explained that projects  were overseen by AEA  and granted to                                                                   
communities. The  organization also provided  ongoing circuit                                                                   
rider   technical   assistance   for  maintenance   and   the                                                                   
integration  of renewable  resources  into  the systems.  She                                                                   
pointed  to an  effort  to ensure  there  was  an ability  to                                                                   
introduce  wind and  have effective  wind  diesel systems  in                                                                   
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  reported that  AEA's  Technical  Assistance                                                                   
program had been  increased in the past year;  two additional                                                                   
positions  had  been  created  to help  advance  projects  in                                                                   
rural  communities   and  to  develop  projects   that  could                                                                   
qualify for the Renewable Energy Fund.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:17:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  continued to  discuss rural energy  on slide                                                                   
9.  The  Power  Cost Equalization  (PCE)  program  was  state                                                                   
funded and  served rural  communities where electrical  rates                                                                   
were three  to four  times higher than  in urban  Alaska. The                                                                   
Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska (RCA)  was responsible  for                                                                   
setting  rates and  AEA was  responsible  for managing  funds                                                                   
and  making payments  to  utilities.  She detailed  that  the                                                                   
program  had been  developed  in  the mid-1980s  (around  the                                                                   
same  time  as  the  Four  Dam  Pool  projects);  it  was  an                                                                   
effective  way to  provide  assistance  to small  communities                                                                   
with  high   cost  diesel   driven  systems,  whereas   large                                                                   
infrastructure  projects  may not  be economic.  The  program                                                                   
paid  for  a   portion  of  utility  bills   for  residential                                                                   
customers  and for  community  facilities.  She relayed  that                                                                   
the  PCE Endowment  had a  current balance  of $788  million;                                                                   
PCE payments were approximately $40 million.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  if the  expected rate  of return  for                                                                   
the PCE  fund was  in legislation. He  believed the  rate was                                                                   
high. Ms.  Fisher-Goad replied  in the affirmative.  The fund                                                                   
was statutorily required to earn 7 percent over time.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  was concerned  that  the expected  rate  of                                                                   
return required  AEA to  take on  additional risk  that could                                                                   
potentially  have high and  low years.  He asserted  that the                                                                   
rate of return  should be between 4.5 percent  and 5 percent.                                                                   
He believed the issue needed to be addressed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:19:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly   asked  if  Senator  Hoffman   believed  the                                                                   
legislature needed  to appropriate  funds to account  for the                                                                   
years of low investment return in the PCE fund.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman clarified  that  he believed  the  statutory                                                                   
rate of return  needed to be modified. He opined  that a $400                                                                   
million  appropriation  the legislature  had  made two  years                                                                   
earlier  would  adequately  address   the  low  [years].  The                                                                   
statutory modification  would change the  investment strategy                                                                   
to make it more realistic with current markets.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough   agreed  that  the  rate   of  return                                                                   
created an incentive  for higher risk projects.  She wondered                                                                   
whether  the legislature  should  allow the  PCE  fund to  be                                                                   
invested  similarly   to  the   Permanent  Fund   instead  of                                                                   
requiring  a  specific  rate   of  return.  She  opined  that                                                                   
depending on  the size of the  fund that it was nice  to have                                                                   
a  diversified  portfolio  with some  investments  in  higher                                                                   
risk  areas.  She  supported  a change  to  the  statute  and                                                                   
believed it  should be  flexible instead of  a set  4 percent                                                                   
or other required return.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman agreed  that flexibility  would be the  best                                                                   
approach given that markets did change over time.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  would  talk  to  Co-Chair  Meyer  about  the                                                                   
issue, but  he was happy to  have a committee  bill sponsored                                                                   
if Senator Hoffman drafted the legislation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked how decreased  interest rates of  4.5 to                                                                   
5 percent would impact the PCE payout.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  replied  that the  investment  strategy  in                                                                   
statute  operated differently  than the  program payout.  She                                                                   
explained  that  the  Department  of  Revenue  (DOR)  is  the                                                                   
fiduciary  of the fund.  She was  happy to  work with  DOR to                                                                   
determine  the impacts  of different  investment  strategies.                                                                   
She furthered that  the PCE fund was statutorily  required to                                                                   
earn  7 percent  over  time, but  the  payout  process was  a                                                                   
three-year monthly  average market value  of up to  7 percent                                                                   
over time.  She explained that FY  14 was the first  time the                                                                   
$400  million cash  injection  (from  the prior  year)  would                                                                   
impact the funds  available for the program.  The legislature                                                                   
had  fully funded  the PCE  program  for many  years; it  had                                                                   
been a  substantial amount  of time since  the payout  of the                                                                   
program needed to  be prorated. The payout continued  to be a                                                                   
mixture of  general fund and  endowment funds.  She specified                                                                   
that of the  $400 million for program management  and payout,                                                                   
$7  million would  come from  general  funds. She  reiterated                                                                   
that  the payout  and  change to  investment  strategy was  a                                                                   
different equation that the legislature looked at annually.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:24:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  how a  change  in statute  [to the  PCE                                                                   
fund required  rate of  return] would  impact the  end users.                                                                   
Ms. Fisher-Goad  responded that  the amount required  to fund                                                                   
the  program  would remain  the  same.  A revision  may  just                                                                   
change the mix of how the program was funded.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  acknowledged  that Senator  Dunleavy  joined                                                                   
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked  when  the PCE  fund  would  be  self-                                                                   
sufficient   and  no   longer  dependent   on  general   fund                                                                   
appropriations.  Ms.   Fisher-Goad  replied  that   based  on                                                                   
current  projections the  endowment  would be  able to  fully                                                                   
fund the PCE program in FY 16. She referred to the three-                                                                       
year  cycle and  stated that  depending on  earnings for  the                                                                   
last year  it could be the  coming year; however,  the impact                                                                   
would be seen in FY 16.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough  observed   that  a  substantial  loss                                                                   
could  occur  if  investors  were   pushed  to  make  riskier                                                                   
investments in  a volatile market  (because of the  7 percent                                                                   
required  rate of  return), which  would require  the use  of                                                                   
more  general funds.  She  stated  that there  was  a way  to                                                                   
secure a  flat payout if  necessary. Under the  current model                                                                   
more or  less could be provided  once the fund  became whole.                                                                   
She wondered  if the  RCA rates were  included in  the Alaska                                                                   
electricity  prices  shown  by  community  on  slide  4.  She                                                                   
remarked that the  graph was helpful because  it communicated                                                                   
the magnitude of  energy costs for families in  many areas of                                                                   
the  state.  She  asked  whether PCE  was  reflected  in  the                                                                   
graph.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:27:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  believed that  energy costs  on slide  4 did                                                                   
not  factor  in the  PCE  program.  She  noted that  the  PCE                                                                   
program only impacted  about one-third of the  kilowatt hours                                                                   
in  eligible   communities  for   a  portion  of   residents'                                                                   
electricity bills  and community facilities. The  program did                                                                   
not  cover anything  above  500 kilowatt  hours  and did  not                                                                   
include commercial customers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  acknowledged that  Senator Bishop  joined the                                                                   
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  discussed  the Power  Project Fund on  slide                                                                   
10  titled   "AEA  Programs."   The  program  offered   lower                                                                   
interest  loans  for  the development  of  small-scale  power                                                                   
facilities; it also  funded bulk fuel storage  facilities and                                                                   
renewable  energy  projects. She  relayed  that  half of  the                                                                   
fund's $35 million  was currently in an  application process.                                                                   
Pending applications  included a  wind diesel system  for the                                                                   
City of  Saint George  and the  Reynolds Creek  hydroelectric                                                                   
project  for  Haida Energy.  The  fund  required  legislative                                                                   
approval for  any projects  receiving state assistance  above                                                                   
$5  million.  For  example,  legislative  approval  would  be                                                                   
required  if an  entity  received grant  for  $4 million  and                                                                   
requested a $2 million loan.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad introduced  her colleague  Sean Skaling  and                                                                   
asked him to continue the presentation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   acknowledged   Ms.  Fisher-Goad   for  her                                                                   
remarkable job during  AEA's first five years.  He noted that                                                                   
in the  prior year the legislature  had extended  the program                                                                   
for 10 years.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:30:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SEAN  SKALING,   DEPUTY  DIRECTOR,  ALTERNATIVE   ENERGY  AND                                                                   
ENERGY  EFFICIENCY, ALASKA  ENERGY  AUTHORITY, DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                   
COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC   DEVELOPMENT,  addressed                                                                   
energy   efficiency  and   conservation  on   slide  11.   He                                                                   
explained  that   the  program   worked  to  address   energy                                                                   
efficiency  in   existing  facilities  before   building  new                                                                   
facilities.  The  program  had  a  state  goal  of  improving                                                                   
energy   efficiency  15   percent   by  2020   (set  by   the                                                                   
legislature  several years back);  AEA had  the goal  in mind                                                                   
as  it  analyzed  opportunities  for areas  of  the  greatest                                                                   
impact.  He pointed  to  significant programs  including  the                                                                   
Alaska  Energy Efficiency  Partnership and  its website;  the                                                                   
partnership included  many agencies that were led  by AEA and                                                                   
AHFC. The  program's focus  was to  encourage individuals  to                                                                   
increase   efficiency.  He   highlighted   that  the   Alaska                                                                   
Commercial  Energy  Audit  Program was  for  privately  owned                                                                   
commercial  buildings. He  stated that  AEA coordinated  with                                                                   
AHFC  on its  programs  to provide  services  to all  sectors                                                                   
including  commercial,  public,  and  small-scale  industrial                                                                   
buildings  through  the Village  Energy  Efficiency  Program.                                                                   
The  commercial   program  provided   an  energy   audit  and                                                                   
customers   were   responsible  for   implementing   measures                                                                   
themselves;  whereas, the  village program  provided a  full-                                                                   
service audit and efficiency work.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:32:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Skaling moved  to slide 12 titled "Energy  Efficiency and                                                                   
Conservation."   He   shared   that  AEA's   efficiency   and                                                                   
conservation  programs had  touched 132  communities and  419                                                                   
buildings  (20,000  commercial buildings  existed  throughout                                                                   
the   state);   the   website   www.akenergyefficiencymap.org                                                                   
provided a visual  and detail of activity  throughout Alaska.                                                                   
Federal  stimulus funding  was  responsible for  much of  the                                                                   
progress  and had  produced  great  results; on  average  for                                                                   
every  $1.00 invested  there  was  a $0.29  immediate  energy                                                                   
savings  (a  300  percent  return   on  investment  after  10                                                                   
years).  He  noted  that  many  of  the  efficiency  measures                                                                   
implemented  would  last  longer than  10  years  (especially                                                                   
those in rural  Alaska). Additionally, the  Alaska Commercial                                                                   
Energy  Audit Program  measures  showed a  30  percent to  33                                                                   
percent  savings  potential; the  measures  comfortably  paid                                                                   
for  themselves.  He  added that  deeper  measures  could  be                                                                   
taken, but 30 percent was a good number.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Skaling  addressed slide 13 titled  "Community Highlight:                                                                   
Emmonak."  Emmonak  had  received  a  whole-village  retrofit                                                                   
through  the  Village  Energy   Efficiency  Program  and  the                                                                   
stimulus  funded  Energy Efficiency  and  Conservation  Block                                                                   
Grant  Program.   The  improvements   were  responsible   for                                                                   
$90,000 in  annual savings; 27  percent of savings  came from                                                                   
efforts to reduce  electricity consumption. He  reported that                                                                   
the return on investment  was not as high as  the 300 percent                                                                   
average because  deeper repairs had  been needed on  a couple                                                                   
of  the community's  buildings; he  pointed to  a before  and                                                                   
after picture  of boilers in one  of the buildings.  He added                                                                   
that local labor was another foundation of the programs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:35:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough queried  whether trained labor  forces                                                                   
were  available  in  small  communities  for  maintenance  on                                                                   
current units.  Mr. Skaling confirmed  that AEA and  AHFC had                                                                   
done  a  significant  amount   of  training  since  2008.  He                                                                   
furthered the  number of energy  auditors for  the commercial                                                                   
energy audit  program had increased  from between 3 and  5 to                                                                   
50.  He  stressed  that  work forces  had  been  trained.  He                                                                   
pointed  to one  contractor who  was good  at training  local                                                                   
staff  (on  lighting  retrofits in  particular);  the  skills                                                                   
could then be applied to other buildings.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Fairclough  asked   whether   there  was   labor                                                                   
available in  Emmonak to  address regular maintenance  needs.                                                                   
Mr.  Skaling   replied   that  the  issue   was  an   ongoing                                                                   
challenge. He  shared that local  employees had  been trained                                                                   
side-by-side  with  the  installation   contractors,  but  an                                                                   
additional  need still  existed; AEA,  AIDEA, and the  Denali                                                                   
Commission  were  all looking  for  ways to  further  enhance                                                                   
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly asked  Senator Bishop  (former Department  of                                                                   
Labor and  Workforce Development  (DLWD) commissioner)  about                                                                   
programs  offered  by  the University  of  Alaska  and  other                                                                   
organizations  that  were  doing  building  and  power  plant                                                                   
maintenance in rural Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:38:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  answered  that  DWLD had  worked  with  AEA,                                                                   
AHFC,   the   Denali   Commission,   and   the   Homebuilders                                                                   
Association;  DWLD  had  received   a  $3.6  million  federal                                                                   
energy   grant  and   other  funds   for  energy   efficiency                                                                   
trainings  throughout  the state.  He  pointed  to an  Alaska                                                                   
Vocational  Technical  Center  (AVTEC)  onsite  wind  turbine                                                                   
that had  been integrated into  the diesel program;  students                                                                   
were trained  in Seward  for local  knowledge. He  noted that                                                                   
the  boiler shown  on slide  13 was  state-of-the-art and  it                                                                   
was not  possible to train  someone completely from  the get-                                                                   
go; the maintenance skills could be learned over time.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:40:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough  questioned  whether units  placed  in                                                                   
rural communities  were standardized to make it  easier for a                                                                   
person  to   train  local   individuals  throughout   Alaska;                                                                   
thereby  ensuring  that  smaller communities  could  use  the                                                                   
product.  She stressed  that  servicepersons  were easier  to                                                                   
come  by for  state-of-the-art  products  in  an urban  areas                                                                   
than in  small communities.  She wondered  if using  the same                                                                   
units  throughout  rural  Alaska  was  one  of  criteria  for                                                                   
investing in small  communities in order to  make maintenance                                                                   
easier to manage.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  commented  that   some  villages  could  not                                                                   
afford to operate  a "washateria" after they  had been built.                                                                   
He  stressed the  importance of  taking  a local  community's                                                                   
expertise,  size,   and  needs  into  consideration   when  a                                                                   
washateria  was built to  ensure the  community could  afford                                                                   
to operate it.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Skaling replied  to a question by  Vice-Chair Fairclough.                                                                   
He stated that  simpler systems were being  installed and AEA                                                                   
was clear  with contractors that  the systems  were important                                                                   
for consistency  and easy maintenance. Additionally,  many of                                                                   
the  same systems  were  being installed  (e.g.  Toyostoves);                                                                   
seeing the same  equipment time after time made  it easier to                                                                   
maintain and made  it possible to use parts from  one unit on                                                                   
another.  He highlighted  an effort called  the Rural  Alaska                                                                   
Maintenance  Program (RAMP).  He  detailed  that the  program                                                                   
took community  maintenance needs  into account  for numerous                                                                   
facilities  (e.g. schools,  public  buildings, power  houses,                                                                   
water systems). The  effort was to create different  tiers of                                                                   
employees  that  would  work  on  all  of  the  equipment  in                                                                   
various  areas.  He  communicated   that  various  challenges                                                                   
existed, but  a training  module was  currently being  set up                                                                   
that considered  different levels of experience  (there could                                                                   
be  a  level one  employee  in  a  village  and a  level  two                                                                   
employee  in  a  hub  community   who  could  perform  deeper                                                                   
maintenance).                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:44:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked how much  the University of  Alaska was                                                                   
helping with training.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  replied that the training projects  for bulk                                                                   
fuel and  renewable energy were  primarily with  DWLD through                                                                   
the  use  of AVTEC  facilities  and  itinerant  trainings  in                                                                   
communities.  She relayed  that  AEA worked  with the  Alaska                                                                   
Center for  Energy and Power  related to the  Emerging Energy                                                                   
Technology   Program   (EETF).   The   university   was   not                                                                   
significantly  involved in the  training program.  She listed                                                                   
other partnerships  including the Denali Commission  that was                                                                   
heading  the  RAMP  effort  with  the  Alaska  Native  Tribal                                                                   
Health  Consortium. She  furthered  that  the Alaska  Village                                                                   
Electric Cooperative  had also  been involved in  discussions                                                                   
related to increased  regional-led training efforts.  She had                                                                   
been  collaborating with  Sandra Moller,  Deputy Director  of                                                                   
Rural  Energy on  the 2013  goal  towards cost  effectiveness                                                                   
and providing  the largest possible  impact. She  referred to                                                                   
power  plant trainings  in  Seward and  shared  that AEA  was                                                                   
looking  at  different  ways to  deliver  training  including                                                                   
ensuring that  system operators  worked closely with  AEA and                                                                   
its contractors  to build the  systems. She relayed  that AEA                                                                   
was looking  at a couple of  pilot programs that  would bring                                                                   
individuals  to Anchorage  to help with  the construction  of                                                                   
power houses.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly recommended  that AEA talk with  Fred Villa at                                                                   
the university.  He relayed  that AVTEC and  DLWD did  a good                                                                   
job; however,  the entities did  not have assets  in multiple                                                                   
communities  like  the  university.   He  detailed  that  the                                                                   
university  made a  shift  towards workforce  development  in                                                                   
the early  2000s specifically  for rural  Alaska. He  pointed                                                                   
to a past  virtual welder training  program as an  example of                                                                   
innovative  training. He  elaborated that  there were  people                                                                   
who were  breaking down  barriers for  training that  allowed                                                                   
delivery   to   rural   Alaska.  He   believed   there   were                                                                   
individuals on  the cutting edge  in relation to  training at                                                                   
the university.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:47:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  wondered  if the  circuit  rider  technical                                                                   
assistance  program was adequately  staffed. He  communicated                                                                   
that the program  had helped save very  costly infrastructure                                                                   
projects.  He believed  that communities  took more pride  in                                                                   
facilities  when  they  took part  in  the  construction  and                                                                   
subsequently took better care of the product.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad replied  that additional  staff and  funding                                                                   
obtained the  prior year  had provided  AEA with the  ability                                                                   
to  offer  a  very  effective   circuit  rider  program.  She                                                                   
expounded that AEA  incorporated a training element  into its                                                                   
community  visits  to  ensure  that  workers  understood  the                                                                   
equipment  and   could  work   with  AEA  on   operation  and                                                                   
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  asked  whether  the  circuit  rider  program                                                                   
needed additional  funding. Ms. Fisher-Goad answered  that FY                                                                   
13 and FY 14  funding was sufficient. She noted  that AEA was                                                                   
grateful  for the  significant funding  increase provided  in                                                                   
FY 13.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:50:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Skaling conveyed  that AEA  published  an annual  energy                                                                   
statistics   report   (slide    14)   that   summarized   the                                                                   
electricity generation  throughout the state.  He highlighted                                                                   
that the  Emerging Energy Technology  Fund was created  by SB
220 in  2010; $8.9  million was  available (funds  were split                                                                   
evenly  between   the  Denali   Commission  the   state).  He                                                                   
detailed that  16 projects had  been selected for  funding in                                                                   
the first  round that was  currently beginning. The  goal was                                                                   
to  provide  a   stepping  stone  to  renewable   energy  and                                                                   
efficiency  with potentially  breakthrough technologies  that                                                                   
may  have  a   significant  future  impact  in   Alaska.  The                                                                   
projects  were  required  to be  commercially  viable  within                                                                   
five  years, were  spread throughout  the  state, and  varied                                                                   
from  simple   (e.g.  exhaust  thimbles)  to   complex  (e.g.                                                                   
airborne wind generators).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Skaling directed  attention to the Renewable  Energy Fund                                                                   
on slide  15. He shared  that he had  just begun  leading the                                                                   
program  through the  round  six recommendations.  He  stated                                                                   
that  the  program had  good  staff  and that  projects  were                                                                   
thoroughly  vetted. The  program  had approved  227  projects                                                                   
and had  allocated $202.5  million. There were  approximately                                                                   
75 projects  under construction  and roughly  80 grants  were                                                                   
in  the construction  phase. He  noted  that applicants  were                                                                   
required  to present  project  feasibility  studies prior  to                                                                   
construction approval.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly pointed  to time constraints and  asked AEA to                                                                   
continue the presentation at a later time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   asked  about  the  governor's   goals  for                                                                   
renewable  energy  and  how  much   progress  had  been  made                                                                   
towards those goals.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Skaling  replied that  the governor  and legislature  had                                                                   
set a  goal for 50 percent  renewable energy for  electric by                                                                   
2025.  Hydroelectric   energy  currently  accounted   for  22                                                                   
percent and  changed from  year to year.  He shared  that the                                                                   
last couple  of months represented  a breakthrough  year with                                                                   
some large wind  projects contributing roughly  2 percent. He                                                                   
concluded  that  renewable  energy  currently  accounted  for                                                                   
approximately   20   percent   to  24   percent   [of   total                                                                   
electricity generation].                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly communicated that he wanted AEA to finish                                                                        
its presentation at a later date.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:55:20 AM                                                                                                                    
RECESSED                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:45:51 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:46:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:46 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
AEA Overview Senate Finance 02 01 13.pdf SFIN 2/1/2013 9:00:00 AM
State of Alaska Energy Programs.pdf SFIN 2/1/2013 9:00:00 AM
AEA Senate Finance REF Performance 2 1 13.pdf SFIN 2/1/2013 9:00:00 AM